2004年05月19日Winny開発者逮捕3カテゴリー[情報社会]Winny問題については、前回のエントリーのあといくつか取材を受けました。そこで考えたことを簡単に整理します。 ■ 今回の事件が提起した問題は、二つに分けるべきだと思います。第一は、 (1)現行の著作権制度とP2Pの可能性の矛盾という問題。これはつまり、モノの複製不可能性を前提とした歴史的な財産権(property)のシステムと、データの複製可能性が引き起こしている矛盾で、きわめて原理的な問題です。 この場合、人々の立場としては、(1-a)なにがなんでも古い著作権制度を守ろう派。つまり、データの流通には顔をしかめる派と、(1-b)データの複製可能性を前提とした新しい著作権システムを考えよう派に分かれるわけですね。charlieがここで記している不満は、この(1-b)の立場のひとたちが、コンテンツ流通の現場を知らない理想論ばっか言ってるんじゃないの?というものですね。これは鋭い指摘だと思います。 ■ しかし、Winnyの事件はもうひとつの問題も提起していて、それは、 (2)Winnyが現行の著作権制度を逸脱する「反社会的」ソフトだったとして、その反社会的な行為になぜ100万とも200万とも言われる人々が加担したのか、という疑問なわけです。 こちらの問題は、実は、デジタルがどうのとか、P2Pがどうのといった話とは関係ありません。むしろ、本質は(突飛なことを言うようですが)年金未納問題に近いように思います。 今日の新聞にも書いてありましたが、国民年金の未納者は2003年度も37%。これだけ払っていないひとが多いとなると、僕は、これは、国民の意志と見なすべきだと思うのです。選挙や司法は、国民の意志を国家運営に反映させる唯一の手段ではない。実際、報道や世論調査も大きな役割を果たしているわけですが、こういう集団ボイコットのかたちで示される意志もあると思うのです(ちなみに、この問題は、ずっと前に書いた「降りる自由」とも関連します)。おそらく、未納者のほとんどは、年金制度そのものが必要ないと思っているわけではない。年金は納めたいけど、現行制度はあまりにひどいから収めないわけです。そして、そのせいで自分が年金をもらえなくても、それは仕方ないと考えている。 Winnyで起きたのも、原理的には同じことではないでしょうか。Winnyの流行で示されたのは、単価が高いうえにマイナーな作品が手に入りにくい現行のコンテンツ流通システム全体に対する大きな「NO」だと、僕は理解しています。200万人近いユーザすべてが確信的な犯罪者で、コンテンツなんてカネ払わなくて当然だと思っていたかといえば、それはやはり考えにくい。実際には、あの音楽聞きたいなあ、あの映画見たいなあ、と思ったとしても、CDを買うと不要な楽曲も入ってくるしDVDは無意味に高いしレンタルビデオ屋は遠いうえにハリウッドの新作しか置いてないし、じゃあとりあえずnyで探してみるか、というひとも多かったと思うわけです。 裏返せば、それらの人々は、安価で便利で作品の多様性を保証した課金システムがネット上にあれば、著作権を尊重した行為へと誘導できたはずだと思うのですね。Winnyがこれほどまでに流行した背景には、日本のコンテンツ業界が、消費者の側にたった流通システムを構築してこなかったという現実があると思います。少なくとも、そのように理解しなければ、Winny問題から何も学べないことになる。年金制度改革に対するいまの政府のように、です。 そして、このように考えると、やはりWinnyの存在には大きな意味があったと思うのです。それは、結果的にではあれ、人々が現状のコンテンツ流通に対して否を突きつけるオルタナティブな場を用意してくれたからです。京都府警は、そのオルタナティヴな試みを「著作権制度に対する反抗」と捉えているわけですが、本当はそれは「現行のコンテンツ流通システムに対する反抗」だったのではないでしょうか。 ■ 今回の逮捕劇に関する随所の反応を見ていると、P2Pの可能性はいい、しかし違法コピーは許せない、Winnyの開発者がそれを知らなかったはずがない、したがって金子氏は捕まっても仕方ないだろう、という意見が多いのですが、それはあまりに単純すぎると思います。違法コピーは許せない、それはそうでしょうが、それを繰り返すだけでは、「じゃあ違法コピー以外でWinnyって使われていたのかよ?」というcharlieのツッコミに反論できない。 問題は、その違法行為がこれだけ広範に拡がってしまったという現実であり、そんな現実を必然にした理由です。無法状態を改善するためには、現実が変わると同時に、法やシステムのほうも変わる必要がある。これは別に、上記1のような原理的問題に直面しなくても改善できるはずです。たとえば、音楽ファイルの安価なダウンロード販売が一般化するだけでも、状況はかなり変わるのではないでしょうか? 年金未納者の強制徴収をいかに厳しくしても年金制度が生き残ることはないように、著作権法違反の取り締まりをいかに厳しくしても(そういえば、今度はgameonlineが逮捕されましたね)、そんなのはいかなる本質的な変化にも繋がらないように思います。 ■ 余談ですが、上記の1-bについて。この立場をとった場合、データの複製可能性を前提とする以上著作物そのものには課金できないわけですから、極論として二つの可能性が出てきます。ひとつは、(1-b-1)著作物の流通を徹底して管理し、アクティベーションなどを駆使して鑑賞行為のほうに課金する。いわゆる「知覚権」というやつですね。そして、もうひとつは、(1-b-2)著作物の流通とは別にカネの流通を確保する。47氏のいう「デジタル証券システム」はこの一種です。前者は絶対的なネットワーク管理を必要とする息苦しい世界ですが、後者はあらゆる著作物が投機対象になってしまうウサンクサイ世界です。どちらがいいか、というのは、なかなか難しいですね。
Posted by: hazuma : 2004年05月19日 16:03
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Posted by: magnifico : 2004年05月19日 23:05
投機そのものが胡散臭いという意図ではありません。 しかし、あらゆるものが、投機のシステム、つまり資本とリスクを交換するシステムでうまく処理されると考えるのも危険だ、と考えています。たとえば、環境問題をリスクとベネフィットの関係で処理してしまうことの危険性は、科学社会学者の金森修氏などが論じています。また、保険数理的発想の蔓延がネオリベ的な弱者切り捨ての発想と通じていることを、社会学者の酒井隆史氏は指摘しています。 コンテンツの生産と流通、そして消費という行為には、さまざまな側面があります。そのなかには、「文化的価値」というどうにも計算不可能な要素も含まれています。したがって、それらが、投機のシステムに適合的かどうかは、別に議論するべきだと考えています。僕の上記発言は、そういう趣旨で理解してもらえれば幸いです。
Posted by: hiroki azuma : 2004年05月19日 23:25
僕は一方では出版社やレーベル等々を仲介しない発信の
Posted by: Kow : 2004年05月20日 09:28
どーせ裁判で勝つのは現体制側なんだからわざわざそっちの肩持つ必要はないと思う・・・
Posted by: XP : 2004年05月20日 10:01
大昔にも一度「年金は途中解約で十分」的な風潮があったらしく、
Posted by: 某 : 2004年05月22日 22:04
> 問題は、その違法行為がこれだけ広範に このあたり、きちんと絡んで議論しようとした >それを繰り返すだけでは、「じゃあ違法 当然使われていたのは自明で、反論する むしろ、コピーでしかWinnyが使われてい
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>(1-b-2)著作物の流通とは別にカネの流通を確保する。47氏のいう「デジタル証券システム」はこの一種です。
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東氏の、このエントリーに対してはほぼ(全面的に)同意します。が、一点疑問があります。
投機とはうさんくさいものですか? リスクテイカーがいなければ世の中にカネが流れません。そもそも、現在の日本の不況自体がリスク回避を選好する日本人の国民性(国民の概念自体が怪しいが)のせいではないでしょうか。
エントリーの趣旨からはずれて申し訳ありません。どなたか「デジタル証券システム」について誘導していただけないでしょうか。nyを使ったことがない素人の発言でした。ちなみに弟も頑固に国民年金を払っていません(笑)。